An important four-week checkup this week revealed that Robert Griffin III's fractured coracoid bone in his left shoulder is showing signs of healing, sources said Tuesday, and doctors believe the Cleveland Browns quarterback, barring any setbacks, will not require surgery.
After Griffin originally suffered the injury in September, the team feared he would miss the remainder of season if surgery was required. The Browns placed him on the Injured Reserve with designation to return, hoping proper healing could mean an earlier comeback.
The IR designation means Griffin still wouldn't be able to return to action until Nov. 10 against Baltimore. However, it is still to be determined whether that is a realistic timeline in terms of the healing process. A source close to the player says Griffin plans to be extremely patient with his return, and has not placed a timeline on when he'll be back, the story said.
The team’s statement on the move said Griffin has a fractured coracoid bone in his left shoulder. It said no surgery is required at this time and that Griffin will be evaluated again in 3-4 weeks.
Per the NFL’s injured reserve rules, the earliest he could return is Week 10.
Tough blow for RG3 and the Browns, but if there's one thing Josh McCown has, it's experience. The 37-year-old has started 57 games in his 13-year career and had his two best seasons in 2013 and 2015, posting a 13-to-1 TD-to-INT ratio with the Bears (under Marc Trestman) and a solid 12-to-4 ratio last year in eight starts for the Browns. Things are looking up for TE Gary Barnidge, who averaged 5.8-80-0.75 with McCown last year. It should also boost the value of RB Duke Johnson's targets, since McCown is less likely (than RG3) to take off and run when the pocket breaks down. Johnson averaged 4.8-44-0.12 with McCown last year versus 3.0-23-.12 without.
Griffin underwent an MRI on the shoulder Monday.
Peter Schrager of Fox Sports and NFL Network first reported that Griffin could be out awhile.
Josh McCown is set to get the nod. After the game, Griffin moved slowly and admitted he was in pain after the game, the story said. The Browns offense hit a couple of big plays in Week 1 against a pretty good Eagles defense but overall struggled to finish drives and also had some drops. Josh Gordon should provide a boost with his return in Week 5.
RG3 stayed in the game and handed off on the final couple of plays to end the game. He said he was in pain after the game and the report said he was not using his left arm a lot as he dressed and put shirt on in training room. RG3 added haid he can use his left arm if needed, according to the story.
He was targeted twice in the second quarter but lost his footing and fell both times before the ball arrived. He even lost a shoe the first time.
He squabbled with Pryor during the game.
The story said HC Hue Jackson said Coleman was pressing. Coleman and the rest of the starters will get a chance to redeem themselves in the final preseason game as the starters are expected to play. It's not clear how long the starters will be in the game. Coleman has missed five practices and sat out two preseason games thus far, the story said.
Griffin ran into guard John Greco as he stepped into the throw, and tumbled to the ground. He hesitated for a moment to get up, but then shook it off the pain in his left knee and ran back to the huddle for the next play.
Whether or not he was still rattled, he fumbled the handoff to Isaiah Crowell on the second snap, but recovered the ball.
"My leg got stuck in the ground on the play I was throwing to TP, but I'm fine,'' Griffin said Monday. "Nothing is wrong with me and TP made a great play. That's all you really worry about. We got the completion, made a big play happen and that's what we're looking for – big plays out of our offense."
Griffin told ESPN's Bob Holtzman after the game that he wasn't sure at first if he was fine "and said the hit reminded him of the one that tore Carson Palmer's ACL'' in 2014. Any trauma to Griffin's knee, of course, sends shockwaves through the Browns, who are committed to him as their starter — and hope he can become their franchise quarterback. Fortunately for Griffin, it was his left knee, and the not the right, on which he's undergone two surgeries to repair the ACL and LCL, the story went on to say.
"It's time. Robert has earned the right to be named the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns," new Browns coach Hue Jackson said in a statement. "Since he was signed back in March, Robert has made it clear through his actions that he is willing to do everything that has been asked of him to earn this role. Throughout this process he has gained the respect from his teammates, the coaching staff and the entire organization that is necessary for him to lead our offense and really the entire team."
This was probably the worst kept secret in football. Griffin took most of the first-team reps in training camp and had been battling Josh McCown for the starting job. It wasn't really a fair contest just based on Griffin's time with the first team. Most reports in the spring and so far this summer had Griffin performing fairly well and there's certainly some QB2, streaming potential there - at least until we see how the offense comes together. Griffin is 30th on our list with an ADP of the 16th round.
Robert Griffin III lit it up in the Browns intrasquad scrimmage Friday night, but defenders can't touch the quarterbacks in these practices, and the true test of his improvement won't come until the first preseason Aug. 12 in Green Bay.
Even then, Griffin will probably only play a series or two, so it will be hard to tell how far he's come. The Browns won't really know how well he's reading defenses until a team gameplans for him in the regular season and tries to rattle him.
"He's been good,'' said Pep Hamilton,, associate head coach/offense). "We'll find out about his ability to recognize looks from a defense that he's not so familiar with once we play a game next week."
There's no question that Griffin has been impressive in the first week of camp. He's connecting especially well with top pick Corey Coleman — who caught three big passes from him Friday night including a 41-yard touchdown pass over Justin Gilbert — and his accuracy has improved tremendously since spring practices, the story all said.
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Josh McCown has heard the whispers.
"Just leave it like that," McCown said, per Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com. "We're on the same page."
The trade makes sense on another level: McCown is from Texas and acknowledged that if he were to go anywhere, Dallas would be his pick. The 37-year-old journeyman went out of his way to note that he wears No. 12 as a tribute to Roger Staubach.
Before long, he'll be flinging it to his good friend and former Baylor teammate Josh Gordon, who will be back in a week or so from a quad injury.
"(We have) the potential to be great,'' Griffin said Tuesday at Browns training camp. "I think all 32 teams look at their roster and say, 'man, we got 'em.' And it's about the ones who grow together the best, come through training camp and get the best out of their season, and become gritty, win close games."
The addition of Gordon will certainly help this offense. But the key is RGIII and his ability to get everyone the ball, something he said he'll do his best as well as getting everyone to trust him. There are some questions are WR with Coleman in his first year and the ability of Gordon to get in game shape.
In fact, it doesn't look like much of a competition, and it won't be long before Hue Jackson names him the starter. At the latest, he'll wait until just before the first preseason game Aug. 12 in Green Bay.
Cabot went on to say if Friday's practice is any indication, there will be no need to wait even that long. Griffin worked exclusively with the ones, and his main challenger, Josh McCown, worked with the twos. Rookie Cody Kessler and Austin Davis stepped in after that. We heard RGIII would get 4-of-5 snaps with the first team but it seems like he got more than that, and it seems it's just a matter of time before he's officially named.
Robert Griffin III hasn’t been promised the starting quarterback job in Cleveland, but heading into training camp, it’s his job to lose.
Longtime Browns reporter Tony Grossi said this morning on PFT Live that Griffin will get four out of every five reps with the first-string offense at Browns camp. That strongly suggests that coach Hue Jackson is heading into camp with the idea that Griffin is his starter, and will only change his mind if something surprising happens.
At the moment, the Browns’ depth chart appears to have Griffin on top, Josh McCown second, rookie third-round draft pick Cody Kessler third and Austin Davis fourth, the story said. As the story also indicated, this is Griffin's job to lose and his chances of keeping it got a little better with what looks like the return of WR Josh Gordon. Griffin is ranked just 30th on our list but has potential to climb a bit if things continue to trend in his favor.
Robert Griffin III had his ups and downs in offseason practices as he came up the learning curve, but he made enough good plays for the Browns to be encouraged heading into training camp. He's learning a whole new offense and Hue Jackson and Pep Hamilton are riding him hard after every rep. I saw him make some tremendous throws, including a long touchdown pass to Terrelle Pryor on the last play of minicamp, but he also threw some interceptions and had other passes batted down at the line.
It was the kind of spring you'd expect from a quarterback who sat out all of last season and who's trying to learn a new scheme and new mechanics. He made it abundantly clear that he's willing to slide and throw the ball away — and that he's coachable. He's also working with quarterback expert Tom House in the time off before camp, which should help tremendously. It's too soon to say if his career can be salvaged, but he's certainly working hard at it.
Jackson and company haven't named RG3 the starter yet, saying the team wants to see the QBs practice in pads, but beat writer Mary Kay Cabot expects that to happen with Josh McCown the likely QB2. Griffin will get some late-round attention in deeper QB leagues but is currently ranked 31st on our list meaning there are much safer options in typical 10- and 12-team leagues.
Browns beat wrtier Mary Kay Cabot recently answered a question about the Browns offense being a run-first one.
I think Hue Jackson will operate a high-powered, balanced attack with a heavy emphasis on the run early and often to make the passing game more effective and to take pressure off Robert Griffin III or whoever's starting.
Take it from running game coordinator Kirby Wilson, who told us in June that the Browns will play the kind of smash-mouth football their fans will love.
"We're going to be a run-oriented football team,'' he said. "Everything starts with the run game, our offensive line and our backs. As coach told us, we're going to be a physically dominant, running football team."
Cabot added she believes Isaiah Crowell will have a 1,000-yard season and Duke Johnson will run more than he did last year. Crowell could certainly have some value at the position if available late in drafts. His current ADP is the 10th. We are comparing the situation to Cincy's where Crowell could possibly be Jeremy HIll-like.
Hue Jackson hasn't seen enough of Robert Griffin III over the past month to declare him the Browns' No. 1 quarterback, but expects to name his man long before the season opener Sept. 11 in Philadelphia.
"It's too soon,'' Jackson said after rookie minicamp practice during Fan Fest at FirstEnergy Stadium. "We haven't gotten into OTAs yet. We just have had off-season and voluntary veteran minicamp and now we've got the rookies in and I think that's way too soon. I would never do that. Again, every position is earned. There's always competition and there's a reason behind it."
"I don't have a timeline," he said. "Obviously, we're going to do it way before we play. If we can do it after OTAs, great. If it has to be at another time, great. We'll do it then, too. Whatever's best for us, that's what we'll do."
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